I have found something which embodies everything I don’t like about everything.
I haven’t been annoyed at anything recently and as such had not updated in a while, so I gave it a read and decided its the worst site on the internet. Here are some things it advocates:
Feminsim - Show me one example of sex discrimination that is anywhere near as bad as it was in the 1960s or whenever. Time’s up! If someone started a Masculism movement they’d get bitched into next year.
Antispeciesism - Cows are eating our grass and destroying our ozone layer. If cows, chickens, sheep or water rats are equal to humans, why not accept them into schools or represent them in Parliament?
Gordon Brown: I now hand you over to my new Chancellor.
Cow: Moo.
Or, you could go all the way and start a sexual relationship with an animal. Go on, if animals are so equal.
Liberation: From what? In Uganda maybe, but not here.
Veganism: There are people who have summed up how vegatariansim/veganism doesn’t ACTUALLY result in that big a decline in the deaths of animals much better than I could, but here is a link that they used.
Anarchism: Have fun in the total chaos that the sudden removal of government would bring, just because YOU thought it might be better. Did you check to make sure it would work for everyone else…
Activism: …because not everyone wants what YOU want. Nobody is going to change their beliefs because they read a book/saw a TV program/got handed a leaflet in the street by a sandwich board-wearing hippy. Stop forcing your agenda down my throat.
You’re probably reaching for the “Comments” link to arrogantly remind me that my writing this, I’M forcing my agenda on YOU. Afraid not, assholes. I never asked you to read any of this, but activists are either pushing leaflets through my door (or into my hand when I’m trying to walk through the town centre) or crapping up my favourite websites with their propaganda. Did anyone see the “I’M A VEGETARIAN” campaign that was on Explosm? Does PETA think I’m a stupid celebrity whore who’ll abandon my preferences because some actress won’t eat meat?
Bah. How people can compare racism to eating animals (see slogan at top) is beyong me. Feel free to disagree, but I doubt victims of race discrimination are grateful of being compared to something which does little except eating grass and taking a shit whenever and wherever it pleases.
No one is making you read leaflets or go on websites though, are they?
If racism was suddenly down to a couple of comments and say, not being paid as much in the workplace, would you advise the end of anti-racist campaigns? If not, how can you possibly ask the same of feminism? All feminism means is the belief that males and females are equal, and that’s something that not everyone agrees with yet. Just because the situation is better for women, doesn’t mean it’s yet good enough. And if men are being discriminated against because of their gender, I will gladly join a masculism movement. Show me where to sign.
Also, the support of our country on the liberation of others can be helpful, if the country truly needs it. And if people want to be vegan, why stop them? It’s surely their choice. Activists aren’t wrong, it’s the evangelical ones who are. Not all activists shove leaflets in your hands; all it means is that they actively support a cause. Regardless, evangelical activists who won’t leave your beliefs alone are indeed bloody annoying.
But yes, I agree with you that the comparison of racism to anti-speciesism is stupid. Show me them when they’ve evolved to be capable of rational thought, then I’ll be interested.
Also, stop calling me an asshole, asshole.
Love you.
Nobody is forced to get on planes that turn out to have suicide bombers, either.
I haven’t just formed an opinion on this stuff after reading one poxy website. This site just acted as a catalyst for it to be expressed in blog form. If I hadn’t wrote it after reading that I would have wrote it after being handed yet another pamphlet by some bearded self-righteous berk (who obviously meant for me to read it, or else he wouldn’t have thrust it in my direction).
Besides, if I don’t read this stuff people would complain I haven’t “researched my argument” or something.
Its interesting that one of the most prevalent forms that feminism originally took grew out of Marxism, to link up with your former post.
“If someone started a Masculism movement they’d get bitched into next year”
Interesting point, although I suspect that “masculism” is already the default in 8/10 places on the planet, so it probably doesn’t need a movement to represent it, just like we don’t probably need a “straight day” for the default of heterosexual relationships (since pretty much everyone is surrounded by straight relationships already), or for that matter a “chicken and mushroom flavour” day for pot noodles.
I really hate pot noodles anyway. There’s just not enough dead animal in them.
How many women ACTUALLY get paid less than men these days? Show me proof that this is happening then we’ll talk.
Do you seriously think women have or have ever had it as bad as racial minorities? I don’t recall any white pointy hat-wearing lunatics calling for the death of women. Because of this, anti-racism requires a hell of a lot more attention than feminism. Furthermore, there will NEVER be absolute gender equality, because a) there is a basic level of physical needs that differ between sexes and b) that would mean that in order to appease women, men have to give something up, even if it’s a small thing like wanting to have a swimsuit calendar hung in their office or whatever. Who says women’s needs are inherently more important than that of men? Sure, there are really important things like equal pay and the right to vote, but that’s already been achieved. All feminism can do now is give women the right to change everything to their preferences, which means men lose out. How equal indeed.
Also, if you want to join a masculism movement, try getting the government to give the same funding to prostate cancer research as they do to breast cancer research.
When did I say other countries didn’t need liberation? All I said was “but not here”. You’re basically agreeing with me.
To ACTIVELY support something, they have to express it publicly, in the form of, say, making speeches or protesting. This is basically a less zealous version of what evangelicals do. When was the last time you heard someone say “I think this and take the time and effort to express it, but if you don’t care I won’t express it to you”? Activists rarely take into account the effect their protests have on other people. Just look at the recent postal strikes.
As for vegans, if they do it for religious or health reasons, then that’s fine. But the people who do it for solely moral reasons need to rethink is that they’re not exactly preventing the suffering of animals (which was, I assume, the point) when you take into account the amount of animals killed in harvesting
Good point, except I don’t live in 8/10 places on the planet. Whilst the situation is likely to be horrific for women in those places, here in England there’s very little to complain about. And its not like the majority of feminists are campaigning in other countries. Anyway, whilst people are “surrounded” by heterosexuality (I think only 1 in 17 people are gay, though I’m not entirely sure) the amount of men is pretty much the same as that of women. So why shouldn’t we have a Men’s Day? There’s a women’s day, but nothing for men. That’s inequality by definition.